It all seems so simple and clear to me. Trying to articulate it to others is the challenge.
Our relationship with ourselves/Our Creator is all that matters. We are children of God first. Our physical bodies are gifts, our life force is sacred. The earth/Our Garden is also a gift, and all life on it is sacred.
I agree. What I am trying to understand and convey is how the menace that certain researchers, journalists, and others gathering here on Substack and elsewhere recognize and are striving to warn the public about under threat of persecution -- extreme scientific fraud -- is founded upon the same techniques of deception and coercion that have been used to condition the scientific community to reject the God, the Bible, and the message.
This also is extreme scientific fraud, but many of these people are able to see it in the one case, established over recent decades, and yet they still "trust the science" in the other case, established over centuries.
I doubt that they are aware of this. This should not be.
I mostly struggle along, "asking for words". Sometimes they come, and sometimes I can't publish because I know something's wrong. My spelling this morning was awful, as the spell checker so aptly pointed out, and some of the key phrases of the piece were, upon proofreading, terribly jumbled, growing worse with each correction. I hope I found and corrected most of it. And I am taking on topics that I don't know what to do with. This is what goes on behind the scenes.
I do appreciate your pieces and your writing style. My background is computer science primarily, and then biology and other fields. Most of my Bible study has been from middle age onward, some of it pro, and some anti, and my theological and church history studies are a more recent senior thing. At least it's still fresh in my memory.
I feel like a fish out of water, flapping around trying to get the attention of others with scientific backgrounds. It is not what I was expecting in my senior years, but then neither is this present world. I never dreamed that the technologies I studied and worked with would be used in the diabolical ways they are being used now.
Thank you. Of course this is written for a specific audience, and it revolves around a specific issue, namely the problem of rejecting false science in some areas while continuing to accept it without proper questioning in others. The second Roman Roads installment that I have been revising for weeks now attempts to address this same question, but I have been having to re-think how to present the problem.
The content of this post came to me this morning, motivated by the PANDA post, but my response was inspired by lectures published by The Starting Point Project (https://www.thestartingpointproject.com), at their Video Streaming Resources link. There is a great deal of material there, some addressed to believers who don't know why they believe what they believe (which was me in my earlier days), and some to scientists and others that believe the scientific stories about how we came to be (which was me in my middle years).
Either way, the message is to investigate for yourself, and not believe things because other people do, or because they are often repeated, or because of coercion. This is a concept already familiar to most readers here, but one that many fail to consider when it comes to their personal science-inspired beliefs.
I was already aware of much of the information presented in those lectures -- I learned it some of it growing up (I was one of those speaking out in high school biology class) -- but there is still much I can learn about how to go about presenting it.
Yes, investigate for yourself is sound advice that is needed today in regards to our physical health and spiritual wellbeing. Seeking revelation from our Heavenly Father through the Holy Soirit is the best way to get answers to our questions.
Nice. One tiny quibble. God will initiate the controlled demolition via the various world powers, rather than that they will do so themselves. Not that they won't think they're acting in an entirely sovereign manner, and that their designs aren't terminal.
And I appreciate your reminders that we are free to accept or reject Truth. God doesn't force us to love and obey him. He lets us choose our path, and he allows the consequences of the choice to play out. But if we turn back to him, in sincerity, he's right there, waiting to receive us. It's actually amazing.
One last thing. Isn't it a pity that science was turned into an idol? Way back when, it was just a way of finding out more about the Creator. Science and faith went very well together then. I'm plowing through the Old Testament for the first time in a very long time and one thing really stands out. God utterly detests idolatry. The misery people brought on themselves because of it is stunning. And we just keep doing it.
As you said, things seems to be happening right on schedule.
That's an interesting point about the demolition. The problem is, it is already going on now at what would appear to be the behest of the "authorities", although I'm not so sure that it is "controlled" (by them). Maybe "restrained" (by God) would be a better way to describe the present situation. I don't think, however, that the audience here would generally appreciate a reference to the Restrainer.
I don't understand exactly what God causes vs. what God permits. As I think about it, though, another way to look at it is that God appoints the leaders according to the behavior of the people. When He appoints evil, corrupt leaders, that is what the people get, and all that goes with it. It is intentional, AND it is cause and effect. We're there.
Maybe I can touch that up a little in the main text.
Agree about what God causes and what he permits. Certainly nothing happens without his say-so. Some might suggest we are splitting hairs, but I think it's a valid thing to ponder on.
I often have to remind myself that our leaders are where they are because God put them there. Then I have to be stern with myself to pray for them. There's no command that I have to like them or their agenda. Only that God's will be done.
I think we're there, too.
And were you making an oblique reference to the rapture, there? A currently unfashionable teaching. I never argue with anyone about it because it isn't a salvation issue. Was raised to expect it, find it Biblical, and still haven't been convinced by the deniers.
I'm fine with the rapture, but it's not a persecution-avoidance insurance plan, as some people seem to think. I'm not fine with that view, because I find nothing in scripture to support it. Responsible pastors and other teachers say this, but I'm not so sure everybody is listening. And anyway, "the dead in Christ will rise first".
There is an oblique reference there, but the rapture and the Restrainer are associated -- can't help it. It is common for the Restrainer to be identified by interpreters as the Holy Spirit, saying that when the church is gone, the restraint is gone too, but that's not explicit in the text. My commentary for Thessalonians proposes that it could also be an angel, consistent with the patterns for synonyms for that word in Revelation (e.g. Rev. 7:1) and elsewhere. The Thessalonians knew. We shall see.
Praying for leaders has never been easy, but it seems to be getting more difficult all the time. And simple at the same time:
o Cease doing what they are doing
o Do what they are appointed to do instead
Not really, but perhaps that's not as far out as the person that said "pray that they leave us alone" -- it's not about us. But I like the line.
It is more nuanced than praying for them to actually do their jobs. But if I am in a no-nuance mood, that is what comes out. The truth is, they are doing what they are appointed to do, even if it doesn't exactly fit the job description. Scary thought, I guess.
It all seems so simple and clear to me. Trying to articulate it to others is the challenge.
Our relationship with ourselves/Our Creator is all that matters. We are children of God first. Our physical bodies are gifts, our life force is sacred. The earth/Our Garden is also a gift, and all life on it is sacred.
Choose wisely how you honour such gifts.
I agree. What I am trying to understand and convey is how the menace that certain researchers, journalists, and others gathering here on Substack and elsewhere recognize and are striving to warn the public about under threat of persecution -- extreme scientific fraud -- is founded upon the same techniques of deception and coercion that have been used to condition the scientific community to reject the God, the Bible, and the message.
This also is extreme scientific fraud, but many of these people are able to see it in the one case, established over recent decades, and yet they still "trust the science" in the other case, established over centuries.
I doubt that they are aware of this. This should not be.
You are a great writer. Insightful and well spoken. Thanks for that. I enjoyed every word.
I mostly struggle along, "asking for words". Sometimes they come, and sometimes I can't publish because I know something's wrong. My spelling this morning was awful, as the spell checker so aptly pointed out, and some of the key phrases of the piece were, upon proofreading, terribly jumbled, growing worse with each correction. I hope I found and corrected most of it. And I am taking on topics that I don't know what to do with. This is what goes on behind the scenes.
I do appreciate your pieces and your writing style. My background is computer science primarily, and then biology and other fields. Most of my Bible study has been from middle age onward, some of it pro, and some anti, and my theological and church history studies are a more recent senior thing. At least it's still fresh in my memory.
I feel like a fish out of water, flapping around trying to get the attention of others with scientific backgrounds. It is not what I was expecting in my senior years, but then neither is this present world. I never dreamed that the technologies I studied and worked with would be used in the diabolical ways they are being used now.
Well, none of that showed. 😀
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The Vaccinated
Sold Their Natural Immunity
- For Nothing.
The Unvaccinated Held On To Their Natural Immunity
And It Is Now Worth
More Than Anything.
More Than Anything That Anyone "Owns".
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Sounds a little bit like selling one's birthright for a bowl of soup.
Love 'Ya
I enjoyed reading your article and you have described our time on earth very well. Thank you for a faith filled read!
Thank you. Of course this is written for a specific audience, and it revolves around a specific issue, namely the problem of rejecting false science in some areas while continuing to accept it without proper questioning in others. The second Roman Roads installment that I have been revising for weeks now attempts to address this same question, but I have been having to re-think how to present the problem.
The content of this post came to me this morning, motivated by the PANDA post, but my response was inspired by lectures published by The Starting Point Project (https://www.thestartingpointproject.com), at their Video Streaming Resources link. There is a great deal of material there, some addressed to believers who don't know why they believe what they believe (which was me in my earlier days), and some to scientists and others that believe the scientific stories about how we came to be (which was me in my middle years).
Either way, the message is to investigate for yourself, and not believe things because other people do, or because they are often repeated, or because of coercion. This is a concept already familiar to most readers here, but one that many fail to consider when it comes to their personal science-inspired beliefs.
I was already aware of much of the information presented in those lectures -- I learned it some of it growing up (I was one of those speaking out in high school biology class) -- but there is still much I can learn about how to go about presenting it.
Yes, investigate for yourself is sound advice that is needed today in regards to our physical health and spiritual wellbeing. Seeking revelation from our Heavenly Father through the Holy Soirit is the best way to get answers to our questions.
Nice. One tiny quibble. God will initiate the controlled demolition via the various world powers, rather than that they will do so themselves. Not that they won't think they're acting in an entirely sovereign manner, and that their designs aren't terminal.
And I appreciate your reminders that we are free to accept or reject Truth. God doesn't force us to love and obey him. He lets us choose our path, and he allows the consequences of the choice to play out. But if we turn back to him, in sincerity, he's right there, waiting to receive us. It's actually amazing.
One last thing. Isn't it a pity that science was turned into an idol? Way back when, it was just a way of finding out more about the Creator. Science and faith went very well together then. I'm plowing through the Old Testament for the first time in a very long time and one thing really stands out. God utterly detests idolatry. The misery people brought on themselves because of it is stunning. And we just keep doing it.
As you said, things seems to be happening right on schedule.
That's an interesting point about the demolition. The problem is, it is already going on now at what would appear to be the behest of the "authorities", although I'm not so sure that it is "controlled" (by them). Maybe "restrained" (by God) would be a better way to describe the present situation. I don't think, however, that the audience here would generally appreciate a reference to the Restrainer.
I don't understand exactly what God causes vs. what God permits. As I think about it, though, another way to look at it is that God appoints the leaders according to the behavior of the people. When He appoints evil, corrupt leaders, that is what the people get, and all that goes with it. It is intentional, AND it is cause and effect. We're there.
Maybe I can touch that up a little in the main text.
Agree about what God causes and what he permits. Certainly nothing happens without his say-so. Some might suggest we are splitting hairs, but I think it's a valid thing to ponder on.
I often have to remind myself that our leaders are where they are because God put them there. Then I have to be stern with myself to pray for them. There's no command that I have to like them or their agenda. Only that God's will be done.
I think we're there, too.
And were you making an oblique reference to the rapture, there? A currently unfashionable teaching. I never argue with anyone about it because it isn't a salvation issue. Was raised to expect it, find it Biblical, and still haven't been convinced by the deniers.
I'm fine with the rapture, but it's not a persecution-avoidance insurance plan, as some people seem to think. I'm not fine with that view, because I find nothing in scripture to support it. Responsible pastors and other teachers say this, but I'm not so sure everybody is listening. And anyway, "the dead in Christ will rise first".
There is an oblique reference there, but the rapture and the Restrainer are associated -- can't help it. It is common for the Restrainer to be identified by interpreters as the Holy Spirit, saying that when the church is gone, the restraint is gone too, but that's not explicit in the text. My commentary for Thessalonians proposes that it could also be an angel, consistent with the patterns for synonyms for that word in Revelation (e.g. Rev. 7:1) and elsewhere. The Thessalonians knew. We shall see.
Praying for leaders has never been easy, but it seems to be getting more difficult all the time. And simple at the same time:
o Cease doing what they are doing
o Do what they are appointed to do instead
Not really, but perhaps that's not as far out as the person that said "pray that they leave us alone" -- it's not about us. But I like the line.
It is more nuanced than praying for them to actually do their jobs. But if I am in a no-nuance mood, that is what comes out. The truth is, they are doing what they are appointed to do, even if it doesn't exactly fit the job description. Scary thought, I guess.
God's got it all well in hand, no need for alarm. And as you said, we indeed shall see. And I suspect every last one of us will be surprised.